Yeah he did, was always a favourite player to watch. I wish Ronaldinho never faded after Barca, to me in his prime there isn’t many as good as him, shame he didn’t keep it up for his whole career. Yeah if Messi progresses more, that will be scary to watch. For me, attribute wise Ronaldo has so many attributes better than Messi, but doesn’t have Messi’s vision, and thats one thing thats virtually impossible to just develop
Yea same Zidane was so good he made great players look average against him! best touch ever!he started to get to that level at 26 so if messi is the same god knows what will happen!! cr7 is a great player for sure ive never denied that,i think if you stop his goals you stop him where as messi can be man of the match without scoring like few yrs back when they beat madrid 5-0 messi was amazing,i think its that vision the players i mentioned had which elevate them to geniuses.
Just because Barca and Madrid have got unbelievable teams, that doesn’t make the whole of the Spanish League strong. The reason many regard the Premier League as the best is purely because it has more teams that are able to challenge for the league compared to most leagues, and also further down the league it has a lot of strength in depth. Whereas if you look at the Spanish League (Purely an example) the lower teams are poor
Yeah I definitely agree that for what he’s done and the age he is is astonishing. The one thing i can’t stand is people saying Ronaldo isn’t an amazing player, in La Liga this season, he was so close to Messi, and just to get close to Messi warrents the greatest of respect in my opinion. But yeah i agree with you there. For me Zidane is my greatest player ever, but alot of that is because i got to see him play unlike pele and maradonna. And to go out with a headbutt, can’t be topped haha
Yea i meant as in certian people then they fail to realize pele played at santos untill 35 so basically all his career and played in an incredible brazil side even without him with the likes of garrincha,that doesnt take away from how good he was you know.I agree but for what he has already achieved and done by 25 is insane and so he does deserve to be mentioned right up their,id go maradonna,pele,zidane,cruyff and messi
What are you talking about? almost every single all-time great passed by there and keep in mind Messi is not an all-time great until his career is finished… all of the retired legends played at Arsenal/Man united/Chelsea/Liverpool
I’m not hating on him mate, i have absolutely no problem people saying he’s the best in the world, the only problem i have is people already calling him the greatest ever before he’s anywhere near the end of his career. In my own mind, he would be more of a great if he did it at another club, but i definitely don’t think he needs to to be seen as the greatest when he’s finished. At the minute i want him at Barca so he can play against Ronaldo. They had a close season this season in La Liga
Yea we are a poor team!! cant even pass a football,maybe one day but yea i guess unlikely,players like giggs,scholes,maldini etc never got criticised for staying at one team but i guess some people love to hate on the best!
Yeah i agree, everytime England are playing my expectations are none existent now. I would love him in England, don’t think it would ever happen though, i think he’ll always be a Barca player.
yea england are awful,no technical ability and we over rate all our players,rooney etc are not fit to lace some players laces! id like to see messi go to england but i guess pele played in santos until 35 and players like maradonna,cruyff,zidane,r9,rhonaldhino,di stefano,platini,puskas,esuebio never did
most player sin barca are spanish and come from youth academy but yea fair comment although i dont think are teams are great technically and it shows in england national team
Every team buys foreign players, Barca, Madrid, Bayern, ALL have foreign players. An English team won the champions league, and beat Barca and Bayern on the way to doing it, that shows the strength in depth the Premier League has. Barca and Madrid are better than any Premier League team, I’m not debating that, but overall the Premier League has much more depth than any other league, by a long long way
city and united couldn’t get out of their group stage yet finished 1st and 2nd says everything,because prem is hyped and backed hugely financially doenst mean the best teams are in it,barca,madrid,bayern are prob 3 best teams in world,city will buy more foreign players and get better though even though they couldnt make it out of cl group stage but won the prem.
you answered 0 of my questions,0 respect for how chelsea won that,sticking 11 in defence is embarrising,barca are best team on the planet and everyone knows that,that was and is only was to try and stop them,we see the last final what happened when united tried playing football they got made to look amateur,best players in world messi,ronaldo,xavi,iniesta,ozil all play in those teams,players like silva,aguerro come from spain and kill the prem
What so because Ronaldo hasnt scored 4 against Arsenal that makes them a good defensive team? If you’re trying to tell me that the Spanish league is better than the Premier league you need to stop watching football because you clearly don’t know what you’re watching. Yeah the Foreign players do make it, but that has no relevence to what we’re talking about. And why do you keep bringing up goals? I’ve already mentioned he’s one of the best STRIKERS ever, that’s irrelevant to the conversation
ok so im asking how many times ronaldo or any other player has scored 4 against them? or even 3? mate you are kidding yourself!! madrid would kill english teams,united and city didnt even get out of the group in cl,united got hammered by basil! then got outplayed and lost twice against a spanish side that were 8th!also messi record in the cl is insane its like 35 in his last 35 games,only have to look at England national team to realise the foreign players from leagues like spain make it.
I didn’t say it wasn’t impressive against Man Utd, but if you seriously think Arsenal are good defensively you need to actually watch them play. And yeah when he plays against Madrid sometimes he does nothing, then pops up with a goal. Being able to play in the spanish league is nothing like being able to play in the premier league, and i’m not even saying he couldnt do it in the premier league, i’m just saying that would make me personally believe he is the best
man of the match and had them falling over,i judge more complete on things that change games passing,assits,finishing,accuracy,dribbler,involvement in the team,thats what makes messi far superior,ive never heard any ex players or legends say cr7 is the best ever and ive heard plenty say messi is,if you took golas away from both messi would be far more effective thats pretty obvious.
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Best ever, end of discuss.
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Yeah he did, was always a favourite player to watch. I wish Ronaldinho never faded after Barca, to me in his prime there isn’t many as good as him, shame he didn’t keep it up for his whole career. Yeah if Messi progresses more, that will be scary to watch. For me, attribute wise Ronaldo has so many attributes better than Messi, but doesn’t have Messi’s vision, and thats one thing thats virtually impossible to just develop
Yea same Zidane was so good he made great players look average against him! best touch ever!he started to get to that level at 26 so if messi is the same god knows what will happen!! cr7 is a great player for sure ive never denied that,i think if you stop his goals you stop him where as messi can be man of the match without scoring like few yrs back when they beat madrid 5-0 messi was amazing,i think its that vision the players i mentioned had which elevate them to geniuses.
Just because Barca and Madrid have got unbelievable teams, that doesn’t make the whole of the Spanish League strong. The reason many regard the Premier League as the best is purely because it has more teams that are able to challenge for the league compared to most leagues, and also further down the league it has a lot of strength in depth. Whereas if you look at the Spanish League (Purely an example) the lower teams are poor
Yeah I definitely agree that for what he’s done and the age he is is astonishing. The one thing i can’t stand is people saying Ronaldo isn’t an amazing player, in La Liga this season, he was so close to Messi, and just to get close to Messi warrents the greatest of respect in my opinion. But yeah i agree with you there. For me Zidane is my greatest player ever, but alot of that is because i got to see him play unlike pele and maradonna. And to go out with a headbutt, can’t be topped haha
Yea i meant as in certian people then they fail to realize pele played at santos untill 35 so basically all his career and played in an incredible brazil side even without him with the likes of garrincha,that doesnt take away from how good he was you know.I agree but for what he has already achieved and done by 25 is insane and so he does deserve to be mentioned right up their,id go maradonna,pele,zidane,cruyff and messi
Wrong.
What are you talking about? almost every single all-time great passed by there and keep in mind Messi is not an all-time great until his career is finished… all of the retired legends played at Arsenal/Man united/Chelsea/Liverpool
It’s ironic many count the Premier League as the best in the world, yet very few of the all-time greats ever played there, including Messi.
I’m not hating on him mate, i have absolutely no problem people saying he’s the best in the world, the only problem i have is people already calling him the greatest ever before he’s anywhere near the end of his career. In my own mind, he would be more of a great if he did it at another club, but i definitely don’t think he needs to to be seen as the greatest when he’s finished. At the minute i want him at Barca so he can play against Ronaldo. They had a close season this season in La Liga
Yea we are a poor team!! cant even pass a football,maybe one day but yea i guess unlikely,players like giggs,scholes,maldini etc never got criticised for staying at one team but i guess some people love to hate on the best!
Yeah i agree, everytime England are playing my expectations are none existent now. I would love him in England, don’t think it would ever happen though, i think he’ll always be a Barca player.
yea england are awful,no technical ability and we over rate all our players,rooney etc are not fit to lace some players laces! id like to see messi go to england but i guess pele played in santos until 35 and players like maradonna,cruyff,zidane,r9,rhonaldhino,di stefano,platini,puskas,esuebio never did
Yeah they are, but they still have foreign players, every team needs foreign players. You’re right there, England team in my opinion are terrible
most player sin barca are spanish and come from youth academy but yea fair comment although i dont think are teams are great technically and it shows in england national team
Every team buys foreign players, Barca, Madrid, Bayern, ALL have foreign players. An English team won the champions league, and beat Barca and Bayern on the way to doing it, that shows the strength in depth the Premier League has. Barca and Madrid are better than any Premier League team, I’m not debating that, but overall the Premier League has much more depth than any other league, by a long long way
city and united couldn’t get out of their group stage yet finished 1st and 2nd says everything,because prem is hyped and backed hugely financially doenst mean the best teams are in it,barca,madrid,bayern are prob 3 best teams in world,city will buy more foreign players and get better though even though they couldnt make it out of cl group stage but won the prem.
you answered 0 of my questions,0 respect for how chelsea won that,sticking 11 in defence is embarrising,barca are best team on the planet and everyone knows that,that was and is only was to try and stop them,we see the last final what happened when united tried playing football they got made to look amateur,best players in world messi,ronaldo,xavi,iniesta,ozil all play in those teams,players like silva,aguerro come from spain and kill the prem
And can I just add, who won in the Champions League Semi Final? Wasn’t a Spanish team was it…
What so because Ronaldo hasnt scored 4 against Arsenal that makes them a good defensive team? If you’re trying to tell me that the Spanish league is better than the Premier league you need to stop watching football because you clearly don’t know what you’re watching. Yeah the Foreign players do make it, but that has no relevence to what we’re talking about. And why do you keep bringing up goals? I’ve already mentioned he’s one of the best STRIKERS ever, that’s irrelevant to the conversation
ok so im asking how many times ronaldo or any other player has scored 4 against them? or even 3? mate you are kidding yourself!! madrid would kill english teams,united and city didnt even get out of the group in cl,united got hammered by basil! then got outplayed and lost twice against a spanish side that were 8th!also messi record in the cl is insane its like 35 in his last 35 games,only have to look at England national team to realise the foreign players from leagues like spain make it.
I didn’t say it wasn’t impressive against Man Utd, but if you seriously think Arsenal are good defensively you need to actually watch them play. And yeah when he plays against Madrid sometimes he does nothing, then pops up with a goal. Being able to play in the spanish league is nothing like being able to play in the premier league, and i’m not even saying he couldnt do it in the premier league, i’m just saying that would make me personally believe he is the best
man of the match and had them falling over,i judge more complete on things that change games passing,assits,finishing,accuracy,dribbler,involvement in the team,thats what makes messi far superior,ive never heard any ex players or legends say cr7 is the best ever and ive heard plenty say messi is,if you took golas away from both messi would be far more effective thats pretty obvious.